Come superare la LMR (Last Minute Resistance)

[Freddy270291 [Partecipante] 49]

Ho trovato questa guida su come superare le LMR, qui raggruppate in 6 differenti tipologie. Scusate se il testo è in inglese, ma ora come ora non ho tempo di tradurre, magari successivamente...

LMR #1: She Hardly Knows You

This is the most common form of LMR, and it occurs on almost all one night stands. The girl likes you and wants to hook up, but ultimately doesn’t know you very well and has concerns – are you just using her for sex? Will you think she’s a slut? Do you have any STD’s? This form of LMR is totally natural, and is built into each girl from a young age. It can happen at any point during the hookup – from you kissing her, to you touching her breasts, to you to trying to take her pants off. This form of LMR can be penetrated. The girl likes you and will have sex with you, but only if she knows there will be no repercussions afterward and she won’t feel bad about herself.

There are 2 strategies to combat this form of LMR:

1) Strategy to Overcome: Agree with Her in an Honest Manner

Difficulty Level: Easy

Her: “Oh my god, this is so bad, we hardly know each other.”

You: “You’re right, this is bad. We do hardly know each other and we should stop.”

Agreeing with her that you shouldn’t have sex sounds like a risky proposition; you are confirming that her doubts are indeed valid, so what’s to prevent her from just ending the hookup there? Fortunately, it doesn’t work that way. By agreeing with her, you’re showing her that you’re not all about sex, which means that you aren’t using her for sex, which means that you won’t think less of her for having sex with you this soon. On a subconscious level it might even go further, that because you’re not all about sex, you probably haven’t had that much sex, which means you are clean (STD-free). This might explain why girls don’t always require condoms, even after giving a guy LMR for the very reason that he might not be clean.

2) Strategy to Overcome: Agree with Her in a Joking Manner

Difficulty Level: Easy

Her: “Oh my god, this is so bad, we hardly know each other.”

You: “I agree, we should, so I’m going to stop unhooking your bra with my teeth.”

By agreeing with her in a joking manner, you are not taking her comments seriously, and by not taking her comments seriously, you’re showing that sex isn’t that big of a deal to you. A guy who instead rationally argues for why a woman’s LMR is unfounded is showing that he cares about sex, and thus might be using her for sex.

The first method is about neutralizing her LMR, while the second method is about being non-reactive. What the two methods have in common is that they both show (in indirect ways) that you are not all about sex, which is the root cause of LMR. Which one you choose doesn’t matter. If one doesn’t work then switch to the other. If using them both doesn’t work then do a freeze out, but make sure to never show any annoyance. If the freeze out doesn’t work then go to sleep and try again in the morning.

LMR #2: She does Push/Pull on You

This is never-ending LMR; the girl resists your advances one minute, attacks you in a fit of passion the next minute, and then pushes you away a minute later. It’s a continuous cycle, beginning the moment you kiss the girl and continuing up until the moment you climax. You’re constantly moving 2 steps forward and 1 step back, and then the cycle starts over the next time you hook up. These girls are generally very confident and outgoing, and derive more pleasure out of the game aspect of the hookup than they do the actual sex.

There are 3 different strategies to overcome this kind of LMR

1) Strategy to Overcome: Do Push/Pull on Them

Difficulty Level: Fairly Easy

This form of LMR is a direct shit-test that girls consciously attempt. They want to know that you’re manly enough to see through it and not be broken down. The best way to overcome it is to neutralize their push/pull by doing it back to them. When she pulls away, attack her. When she attacks you, pull away. By doing this same thing to her (which probably no guy has in the past), she’ll view you as having equal status to her and she’ll also see you as someone that she does not yet have under her sexual spell. The only way to get control of you is to give you sex and make you come back for more.

2) Strategy to Overcome: Push until the Very End, then do a Freeze Out.

Difficulty Level: Medium

The pushing will progress you slowly towards sex, but then at the very end she will most likely freeze you out and end the hookup. To counter this, you need to freeze her out first. This strategy should also work, but will take much longer and will only break down her resistance in the end, whereas the first strategy completely neutralizes her resistance from the start.

3) Strategy to Overcome: Put the Condom on and Fuck Her

Difficulty Level: Medium

This strategy is controversial for obvious reasons, and not advised. Subconsciously the girl wants you to physically overpower her. Her attacking you is a test to see if you’re strong enough to overpower her, both mentally (by not being phased) and physically (by overpowering her). By physically overpowering her, you prove your strength as an alpha male, and these girls only want to fuck the most alpha of males. Also, being rough is what turns these girls on sexually; kissing does not go as far. By being rough with her, you reach a point where the girl is so turned on that she can’t say no.

LMR #3: She Wants to Know that She's Different

This LMR happens when the girl wants to make sure she’s special to you. This could be because she feels a real connection to you, and thinks it could blossom into a relationship. In this case she doesn’t want to potentially jeopardize something good by sleeping with you. It could also be because she knows you’re a player and doesn’t want to give herself away like all those other girls; she wants to know that she means more.

Strategy to Overcome: none

Difficulty Level: Hard

This LMR is not spontaneous the way the other kinds of LMR are; it is strategically planned ahead of time by the girl. In that sense it isn’t really LMR at all; it’s only included here because you never know when it might occur. This is the kind of LMR that Style got when he told girls he’s a PUA, and even he couldn’t overcome it (not in the short term at least). The good news is that if you continue to have tight game then she’ll definitely have sex with you eventually. In this sense, it’s probably best to just wait until a Day 2 or Day 3.

LMR #4: She’s Prudish

This LMR has little to do with typical anti-slut defense and more to do with her lack of sexual experience and prudish nature. Some girls, no matter how tight your game is, will simply not hook up with you the first night. Because of their lack of sexual experience and introverted personalities, these girls are overly self-conscious and take longer to get out of their comfort zone. A typical HB party girl will rarely fall into this category, as they’ve had enough social interaction and sexual experience that they are comfortable. On the other hand, a young girl that you met in the library might fall into this category. She has fewer guys hitting on her and is still not fully comfortable around the opposite sex.

Strategy to Overcome: Build Deep Rapport and Mix with Kino

Difficulty Level: Hard

Stay in comfort has long as possible with these girls and build a lot of rapport. Go heavy on the routines and cold reads. Go light with kino at first and then slowly build it up. Mix the kino in with your routines; if you touch her when she is having an emotional realization, it will be ingrained in her subconscious and she will feel more comfortable around you. Ultimately, this probably won’t be enough, and she won’t sleep with you for the same reasons that your high school girlfriend made you wait 6 months; she’s just not comfortable getting physical.

One more warning: do not push too hard! If you do too much to bring a girl out of her sexual comfort zone, she’ll be gone forever. It’s your job to heed the warning signs and decide when to shut down and wait for another night.

LMR #5: She Doesn’t Want to Screw Over Her Friend

This LMR occurs when her concerns about a good female friend outweigh her concerns about hooking up with you. It can happen in any of the following instances:

1) You previously dated her close female friend

2) She knows your girlfriend personally

3) She doesn’t want to leave her female friend alone with your creepy roommate

#1 is the most serious kind because the friend will probably find out about it, thus putting their friendship in jeopardy, which matters more to her than you do (at the moment at least). #2 is less serious because the girlfriend is less likely to find out, and #3 is the least serious. Note that this form of LMR does NOT include instances where a female friend tells her that you’re an asshole and that she shouldn’t hook up with you. People don’t like to be controlled, and this will mostly likely make her want you more.

Strategy to Overcome: Take Full Responsibility

Difficulty Level: Medium/Easy

If the LMR involves #1 or #2, do not rationally argue that the female friend in question isn’t a big deal, and that she won’t find out. Instead, agree with the girl that what you’re doing is “so bad”, but that it just “happened”, and that if the friend finds out that you’ll take full responsibility.

If the LMR involves #3, then just make sure the friends are as comfortable as possible in the living room. Chat them up before you take your girl in the bedroom. Have them play with your puppy. Once you have your target isolated in your room, then come out of the room to get a drink, ask how the movie is, then go back into your room.

LMR #6: She has a Boyfriend

If you meet a girl in a bar and she has a boyfriend, she may or may not tell you. If she does not tell you then that’s a clear indication she’s willing to hookup, and this form of LMR will not happen. If she does tell you then it’s harder, but not impossible. This form of LMR will be similar to the first kind of LMR (she hardly know you), as she will say things like “this is so bad” or “I can’t believe I’m doing this.”

Strategy to Overcome: Pretend that you have a Girlfriend and Take Full Responsibility

Difficulty Level: Medium

By pretending that you have a girlfriend, you are relieving her of some guilt. She’s not the only one cheating; you are too. Take full responsibility for all escalation and talk about how much she turns you on. Chances are her boyfriend isn’t giving her this much attention, and you’ll look better as a result. Do not justify why she should cheat on her boyfriend, and do not discuss similarities between your mutual predicaments. Frame the hookup around you being the bad one, and that you were just so turned down by her that you couldn’t control yourself and one thing led to another and it just happened.

No LMR:

Most guys think only more experienced women who are comfortable with their sexuality do not give LMR. This is not true; there are actually 5 different types of girls who do not give LMR:

1) Cougars; older women who are single and don’t get out much.

They have outgrown any slut complexes they used to have, and are just out to have a fun time and satisfy their own needs.

2) Unattractive girls, particularly “fat chicks.”

These girls never get hit on and have few opportunities for sex. To make matters worse, they constantly see their hot friends being hit on and hooking up. If an opportunity does not come up, they don’t want to squander it.

3) Younger girls (18-19) who have not yet acquired a slut complex.

These girls have only had sex with a couple guys in their life, and they’re horny for more. The problem is that they have few opportunities for sex because guys their age suck at pickup, and the girls aren’t old enough to go to places (bars, clubs) where they can meet older, more experienced guys.

4) Girls on vacation

Girls on vacation have no slut complexes because they know they’re never going to see anyone again. Thus they have no reputation to worry about, nor do they have worry about the guy calling the next day. Also, this is one time when it’s deemed OK and even traditional to hookup (i.e. spring break, Vegas), so girls can drop their guard for a few days without fear of consequence.

5) Girls who are on the rebound

These girls just got out of a relationship and want to go crazy for a night. This is another rare time where it’s deemed acceptable for girls to hookup, so they temporarily drop their anti-slut defense, as well as their standards. If you’re a guy who hooks up with these girls, you’re getting “lucky.”

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[tizzone [Partecipante] 918]

Ho trovato questa guida su come superare le LMR, qui raggruppate in 6 differenti tipologie. Scusate se il testo è in inglese, ma ora come ora non ho tempo di tradurre, magari successivamente...

LMR #1: She Hardly Knows You

This is the most common form of LMR, and it occurs on almost all one night stands. The girl likes you and wants to hook up, but ultimately doesn’t know you very well and has concerns – are you just using her for sex? Will you think she’s a slut? Do you have any STD’s? This form of LMR is totally natural, and is built into each girl from a young age. It can happen at any point during the hookup – from you kissing her, to you touching her breasts, to you to trying to take her pants off. This form of LMR can be penetrated. The girl likes you and will have sex with you, but only if she knows there will be no repercussions afterward and she won’t feel bad about herself.

There are 2 strategies to combat this form of LMR:

1) Strategy to Overcome: Agree with Her in an Honest Manner

Difficulty Level: Easy

Her: “Oh my god, this is so bad, we hardly know each other.”

You: “You’re right, this is bad. We do hardly know each other and we should stop.”

Agreeing with her that you shouldn’t have sex sounds like a risky proposition; you are confirming that her doubts are indeed valid, so what’s to prevent her from just ending the hookup there? Fortunately, it doesn’t work that way. By agreeing with her, you’re showing her that you’re not all about sex, which means that you aren’t using her for sex, which means that you won’t think less of her for having sex with you this soon. On a subconscious level it might even go further, that because you’re not all about sex, you probably haven’t had that much sex, which means you are clean (STD-free). This might explain why girls don’t always require condoms, even after giving a guy LMR for the very reason that he might not be clean.

2) Strategy to Overcome: Agree with Her in a Joking Manner

Difficulty Level: Easy

Her: “Oh my god, this is so bad, we hardly know each other.”

You: “I agree, we should, so I’m going to stop unhooking your bra with my teeth.”

By agreeing with her in a joking manner, you are not taking her comments seriously, and by not taking her comments seriously, you’re showing that sex isn’t that big of a deal to you. A guy who instead rationally argues for why a woman’s LMR is unfounded is showing that he cares about sex, and thus might be using her for sex.

The first method is about neutralizing her LMR, while the second method is about being non-reactive. What the two methods have in common is that they both show (in indirect ways) that you are not all about sex, which is the root cause of LMR. Which one you choose doesn’t matter. If one doesn’t work then switch to the other. If using them both doesn’t work then do a freeze out, but make sure to never show any annoyance. If the freeze out doesn’t work then go to sleep and try again in the morning.

LMR #2: She does Push/Pull on You

This is never-ending LMR; the girl resists your advances one minute, attacks you in a fit of passion the next minute, and then pushes you away a minute later. It’s a continuous cycle, beginning the moment you kiss the girl and continuing up until the moment you climax. You’re constantly moving 2 steps forward and 1 step back, and then the cycle starts over the next time you hook up. These girls are generally very confident and outgoing, and derive more pleasure out of the game aspect of the hookup than they do the actual sex.

There are 3 different strategies to overcome this kind of LMR

1) Strategy to Overcome: Do Push/Pull on Them

Difficulty Level: Fairly Easy

This form of LMR is a direct shit-test that girls consciously attempt. They want to know that you’re manly enough to see through it and not be broken down. The best way to overcome it is to neutralize their push/pull by doing it back to them. When she pulls away, attack her. When she attacks you, pull away. By doing this same thing to her (which probably no guy has in the past), she’ll view you as having equal status to her and she’ll also see you as someone that she does not yet have under her sexual spell. The only way to get control of you is to give you sex and make you come back for more.

2) Strategy to Overcome: Push until the Very End, then do a Freeze Out.

Difficulty Level: Medium

The pushing will progress you slowly towards sex, but then at the very end she will most likely freeze you out and end the hookup. To counter this, you need to freeze her out first. This strategy should also work, but will take much longer and will only break down her resistance in the end, whereas the first strategy completely neutralizes her resistance from the start.

3) Strategy to Overcome: Put the Condom on and Fuck Her

Difficulty Level: Medium

This strategy is controversial for obvious reasons, and not advised. Subconsciously the girl wants you to physically overpower her. Her attacking you is a test to see if you’re strong enough to overpower her, both mentally (by not being phased) and physically (by overpowering her). By physically overpowering her, you prove your strength as an alpha male, and these girls only want to fuck the most alpha of males. Also, being rough is what turns these girls on sexually; kissing does not go as far. By being rough with her, you reach a point where the girl is so turned on that she can’t say no.

LMR #3: She Wants to Know that She's Different

This LMR happens when the girl wants to make sure she’s special to you. This could be because she feels a real connection to you, and thinks it could blossom into a relationship. In this case she doesn’t want to potentially jeopardize something good by sleeping with you. It could also be because she knows you’re a player and doesn’t want to give herself away like all those other girls; she wants to know that she means more.

Strategy to Overcome: none

Difficulty Level: Hard

This LMR is not spontaneous the way the other kinds of LMR are; it is strategically planned ahead of time by the girl. In that sense it isn’t really LMR at all; it’s only included here because you never know when it might occur. This is the kind of LMR that Style got when he told girls he’s a PUA, and even he couldn’t overcome it (not in the short term at least). The good news is that if you continue to have tight game then she’ll definitely have sex with you eventually. In this sense, it’s probably best to just wait until a Day 2 or Day 3.

LMR #4: She’s Prudish

This LMR has little to do with typical anti-slut defense and more to do with her lack of sexual experience and prudish nature. Some girls, no matter how tight your game is, will simply not hook up with you the first night. Because of their lack of sexual experience and introverted personalities, these girls are overly self-conscious and take longer to get out of their comfort zone. A typical HB party girl will rarely fall into this category, as they’ve had enough social interaction and sexual experience that they are comfortable. On the other hand, a young girl that you met in the library might fall into this category. She has fewer guys hitting on her and is still not fully comfortable around the opposite sex.

Strategy to Overcome: Build Deep Rapport and Mix with Kino

Difficulty Level: Hard

Stay in comfort has long as possible with these girls and build a lot of rapport. Go heavy on the routines and cold reads. Go light with kino at first and then slowly build it up. Mix the kino in with your routines; if you touch her when she is having an emotional realization, it will be ingrained in her subconscious and she will feel more comfortable around you. Ultimately, this probably won’t be enough, and she won’t sleep with you for the same reasons that your high school girlfriend made you wait 6 months; she’s just not comfortable getting physical.

One more warning: do not push too hard! If you do too much to bring a girl out of her sexual comfort zone, she’ll be gone forever. It’s your job to heed the warning signs and decide when to shut down and wait for another night.

LMR #5: She Doesn’t Want to Screw Over Her Friend

This LMR occurs when her concerns about a good female friend outweigh her concerns about hooking up with you. It can happen in any of the following instances:

1) You previously dated her close female friend

2) She knows your girlfriend personally

3) She doesn’t want to leave her female friend alone with your creepy roommate

#1 is the most serious kind because the friend will probably find out about it, thus putting their friendship in jeopardy, which matters more to her than you do (at the moment at least). #2 is less serious because the girlfriend is less likely to find out, and #3 is the least serious. Note that this form of LMR does NOT include instances where a female friend tells her that you’re an asshole and that she shouldn’t hook up with you. People don’t like to be controlled, and this will mostly likely make her want you more.

Strategy to Overcome: Take Full Responsibility

Difficulty Level: Medium/Easy

If the LMR involves #1 or #2, do not rationally argue that the female friend in question isn’t a big deal, and that she won’t find out. Instead, agree with the girl that what you’re doing is “so bad”, but that it just “happened”, and that if the friend finds out that you’ll take full responsibility.

If the LMR involves #3, then just make sure the friends are as comfortable as possible in the living room. Chat them up before you take your girl in the bedroom. Have them play with your puppy. Once you have your target isolated in your room, then come out of the room to get a drink, ask how the movie is, then go back into your room.

LMR #6: She has a Boyfriend

If you meet a girl in a bar and she has a boyfriend, she may or may not tell you. If she does not tell you then that’s a clear indication she’s willing to hookup, and this form of LMR will not happen. If she does tell you then it’s harder, but not impossible. This form of LMR will be similar to the first kind of LMR (she hardly know you), as she will say things like “this is so bad” or “I can’t believe I’m doing this.”

Strategy to Overcome: Pretend that you have a Girlfriend and Take Full Responsibility

Difficulty Level: Medium

By pretending that you have a girlfriend, you are relieving her of some guilt. She’s not the only one cheating; you are too. Take full responsibility for all escalation and talk about how much she turns you on. Chances are her boyfriend isn’t giving her this much attention, and you’ll look better as a result. Do not justify why she should cheat on her boyfriend, and do not discuss similarities between your mutual predicaments. Frame the hookup around you being the bad one, and that you were just so turned down by her that you couldn’t control yourself and one thing led to another and it just happened.

No LMR:

Most guys think only more experienced women who are comfortable with their sexuality do not give LMR. This is not true; there are actually 5 different types of girls who do not give LMR:

1) Cougars; older women who are single and don’t get out much.

They have outgrown any slut complexes they used to have, and are just out to have a fun time and satisfy their own needs.

2) Unattractive girls, particularly “fat chicks.”

These girls never get hit on and have few opportunities for sex. To make matters worse, they constantly see their hot friends being hit on and hooking up. If an opportunity does not come up, they don’t want to squander it.

3) Younger girls (18-19) who have not yet acquired a slut complex.

These girls have only had sex with a couple guys in their life, and they’re horny for more. The problem is that they have few opportunities for sex because guys their age suck at pickup, and the girls aren’t old enough to go to places (bars, clubs) where they can meet older, more experienced guys.

4) Girls on vacation

Girls on vacation have no slut complexes because they know they’re never going to see anyone again. Thus they have no reputation to worry about, nor do they have worry about the guy calling the next day. Also, this is one time when it’s deemed OK and even traditional to hookup (i.e. spring break, Vegas), so girls can drop their guard for a few days without fear of consequence.

5) Girls who are on the rebound

These girls just got out of a relationship and want to go crazy for a night. This is another rare time where it’s deemed acceptable for girls to hookup, so they temporarily drop their anti-slut defense, as well as their standards. If you’re a guy who hooks up with these girls, you’re getting “lucky.”

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[Freddy270291 [Partecipante] 49]

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[GameMaker [Partecipante] 188]

LMR #1: Ti conosce a malapena

Questa è la forma più comune di LMR, e c'è in quasi tutti gli ONS. Alla ragazza piaci e vuole darci dentro, ma non ti conosce molto bene e ciò la preoccupa – la stai usando solo per il sesso? Penserai che è una puttana? Hai malattie veneree? Questa forma di LMR è naturale, ed è 'inclusa' in ogni ragazza fin dalla giovane età. Può avvenire durante qualsiasi momento prima del rapporto – mentre la baci, la palpi, le sfili i pantaloni.

Ci sono 2 modi di combattere questa LMR:

1) Sii d'accordo con lei in una maniera sincera

Difficoltà: Facile

Lei: “Oddio, è così sbagliato.. ci conosciamo a malapena!".

Tu: “Hai ragione, è sbagliato. Ci conosciamo a malapena e non dovremmo farlo."

Essere d'accordo con lei che non dovreste fare sesso sembra rischioso; stai confermando che i suoi dubbi sono validi, quindi temi di perderla così? Fortunatamente, non funziona così. Essendo d'accordo con lei, stai mostrando che tu non pensi solo al sesso, vuol dire che non la stai usando solo per quello, e non penserai male di lei se lo farete così presto. A livello subconscio, potrebbe anche farle capire che non essendo abituato a fare sesso magari non ne hai fatto neanche molto, e non hai malattie veneree (STD).

2) Sii d'accordo con lei in una maniera scherzosa

Difficoltà: Facile

Lei: “Oddio, è così sbagliato.. ci conosciamo a malapena!".

Tu: “Hai ragione, non dovremmo farlo, quindi ora smetterò di slacciarti il reggiseno coi denti."

Essendo d'accordo con lei in maniera scherzosa, non stai prendendo seriamente i suoi commenti, e stai mostrando che il sesso per te non è tutta sta gran cosa. Un ragazzo che invece discute in maniera razionale con la LMR di una donna, sta mostrando che il sesso per lui è molto importante, e perciò potrebbe star usando lei solo a questo fine.

Il primo metodo riguarda come neutralizzare la LMR, il secondo riguarda come aggirarlo. Entrambi mostrano (in maniera indiretta) che non pensi solo a scopare. Non importa quale scegli, e se un metodo non funziona, passa all'altro. Se nessuno dei due funziona, fai un freeze out, ma non mostrare nessun'emozione di disprezzo per non aver fatto sesso. Se il freeze out non funziona allora dormi pure e riprova la mattina.

LMR #2: Lei fa Push/Pull

Questa è una LMR che non finisce mai: la ragazza resiste per qualche minuto, poi ha un attacco di passione il minuto dopo, poi ti caccia di nuovo. E' un ciclo continuo, che inizia nel momento in cui la baci e continua fino all'orgasmo. Fai sempre due passi avanti e uno indietro, e il ciclo ripartirà al prossimo incontro. Di solito questo tipo di ragazze sono molto sicure si sè, e provano più piacere dai preliminari push/pull (avendoti in pugno) che dal sesso vero e proprio.

Ci sono 3 strategie diverse per questo tipo di LMR:

1) Fai tu Push/Pull su di lei

Difficoltà: Facile

Questo tipo di LMR è un ST diretto che la ragazza tenta. Vuole sapere se sei abbastanza uomo da riuscire a reggere il gioco. Il modo migliore per riuscire a superare questa fase è fare PP tu stesso. Quando si tira indietro, fatti avanti tu; quando invere sarà lei a farsi avanti, tirati indietro tu. Facendo così (cosa che nessun ragazzo avrà mai fatto in passato), ti vedrà come una persona allo stesso livello (equal status) e che non ha ancora sotto il suo potere. L'unico modo di controllarti è fare sesso con te e poi farti tornare un'altra volta per averne ancora

2) Push fino a un passo dalla fine, poi FreezeOut

Difficoltà: Media

Il Push ti avvicinerà in maniera progressiva al sesso, ma ad un passo dalla fine lei probabilmente farà un freeze e ti lascerà lì insoddisfatto. Per contrattaccare, devi fare prima tu il freeze out e farle capire che il sesso per te non è così importante, e non ti fai controllare da lei.

3) Mettiti il preservativo e scopala

Difficoltà: Media

Questa strategia è controversa per ovvie ragioni, e non è consigliata. Inconsciamente la ragazza vuole essere presa di forza, e attaccandoti ti sta STestando per vedere se sei abbastanza uomo sia mentalmente (non buttandoti giù) sia fisicamente (prendendola di forza) dimostrando d'essere un maschio Alpha. Inoltre, essere rudi è ciò che eccita queste ragazze, fino ad un punto in cui non potranno più dirti di no.

LMR #3: Vuole sapere d'essere diversa dalle altre

Questa LMR arriva quando la ragazza vuole sentirsi speciale per te. Questo può succedere perchè sente una reale connessione con te, e pensa che potrebbe nascerne una relazione. In questo caso non vuole rovinare tutto venendo a letto con te.

Potrebbe anche arrivare perchè sa che sei un Casanova e non vuole 'darsi via' come tutte le altre; vuole sapere di valere di più.

Strategia: nessuna.

Difficoltà: Difficile

Questa LMR non è spontanea come le altre, questa è programmata già da tempo dalla ragazza. Non è neanche una LMR a dirla tutta, è inclusa in questa lista perchè non puoi mai sapere quando ti arriverà. Questo è il tipo di LMR che arrivò a Style quando disse alle ragazze che era un PUA, e neanche lui riuscì a superarle (almeno non subito). La buona notizia è che se continui a fare un buon game, molto probabilmente dopo un Day2 o Day3 riuscirai a far sesso con lei.

LMR #4: E' modesta/timida (in inglese: Prudish)

Questa LMR ha poco in comune con le difese 'anti zoccola' e più in comune con la sua mancanza di esperienza sessuale e timidezza di carattere. Molte ragazze, non importa che ottimo game tu abbia avuto, non si concederanno mai la prima notte. Una tipica HB da party raramente cadrà in questa categoria, visto che hanno sicuramente avuto abbastanza interazione sociale ed esperienze sessuali che le faranno sentire a loro agio in una ONS. D'altro canto, una giovane ragazza conosciuta in una biblioteca potrebbe essere in questa categoria, avendo avuto magari meno ragazzi ed essendo meno a suo agio con l'altro sesso.

Strategia: Costruisci un rapporto profondo + molto Kino

Difficoltà: Difficile

Crea più comfort possibile e costruisci molto rapport. Vai pesante con le routine e le letture a freddo, parti piano col Kino e sali gradualmente. Se la tocchi mentre è emozionata, inconsciamente si sentirà più a suo agio con te. Con alcune questo potrebbe non essere abbastanza, e non farà sesso con te per la stessa ragione per cui hai aspettato 6 mesi con la tua ragazza al liceo prima di farlo: non è a suo agio col fisico.

Un ultimo avvertimento: non provarci troppo pesantemente! Se la spingi troppo oltre la sua comfort-zone, potresti perderla per sempre. Il tuo lavoro è stare attento ai segnali e capire quando smettere e aspettare un'altra notte.

LMR #5: Non vuole rovinare il rapporto con gli amici

Questa LMR arriva quando lei si preoccupa riguardo ad un'altra ragazza che potrebbe farla sentire in colpa. Potrebbe essere uno qualsiasi di questi casi:

1) Sei uscito in precedenza con la sua migliore amica

2) Conosce personalmente la tua ragazza

3) Non vuole lasciare la sua amica da sola con il tuo coinquilino

Il primo caso è quello più serio perchè se l'amica lo scoprisse, potrebbe mettere a rischio la loro amicizia, cosa che al momento preoccupa più lei che te.

Il secondo caso è meno serio perchè la ragazza è meno probabile che lo scopra.

Il terzo caso è il meno preoccupante.

Nota bene: questa forma di LMR non prende in considerazione il caso in cui un'amica le dice che sei uno sfigato e non dovrebbe fare niente con te, perchè alle persone non piace essere controllate, e ciò probabilmente farà solo aumentare l'interesse per te.

Strategia: Prenditi la piena responsabilità

Difficoltà: Facile/Medio

Se la LMR è uno dei primi due casi, non discutere in maniera razionale dicendo che la ragazza in questione non è un problema e 'non lo scoprirà'. Piuttosto, sii d'accordo dicendo che 'è sbagliato', però 'è successo', e che se qualcuno lo viene a sapere ti prenderai la piena responsabilità.

Se la LMR è il terzo caso, ti basterà mettere a loro agio gli altri inquilini prima di portare a letto la ragazza. Una volta che l'hai isolata nella tua camera, esci per prendere qualcosa da bere, controlla se si stanno divertendo o meno, e poi rientra nella stanza.

LMR #6: Ha il ragazzo

Se incontri una ragazza in un bar, potrebbe o meno dirti se ha il ragazzo. Se non te lo dice, è un chiaro IOI, e questa forma di LMR non è un tuo problema. Se invece ti dice di averlo, è più difficile portarsela a letto ma non impossibile. Questa LMR è molto simile alla prima ("ci conosciamo appena"), poichè dira cose come "questo è sbagliato" e "non riesco a credere che lo stiamo facendo".

Strategia: Fai finta d'avere anche tu una ragazza / Prenditi piena responsabilità

Difficoltà: Media

Facendo finta che hai una ragazza, le stai dando la possibilità di sentirsi meno in colpa poichè lei non sarà l'unica a tradire. Prenditi piena responsabilità dell'accaduto e spiegale quanto lei ti ecciti. E' probabile che il suo ragazzo non le dia molte attenzioni, e tu farai un'ottima figura. Non spiegarle razionalmente perchè dovrebbe tradire il suo ragazzo, e non fare paragoni tra te e lui. Imposta il frame sul tuo essere un 'cattivo ragazzo', ed essendo così eccitato da lei non sei riuscito a controllarti, perciò una cosa dopo l'altra 'sta semplicemente succedendo'.

Nessuna LMR:

Ci sono 5 tipi di ragazze che non fanno nessun tipo di LMR.

1) Donne single che non escono molto

Crescendo hanno perso tutti gli 'scudi AntiZoccola' che avevano, e ora cercano semplicemente qualcuno con cui passare del buon tempo e divertirsi.

2) Ragazze non attraenti, UG

Raramente vengono avvicinate, e ancora più raramente fanno sesso. Per rendere il tutto peggiore, vedono sempre le loro amiche HB che vengono approcciate. Se a loro comprare un'opportunità, sicuramente non la vorranno bruciare.

3) Ragazze giovani (18-19) che non hanno ancora lo slut-complex

Queste ragazze hanno avuto solo un paio di relazioni, e ne vogliono ancora. Il problema è che hanno poche opportunità perchè i ragazzi della loro età sono pessimi nell'approcciarle (nota personale di GameMaker: su questo avrei da ridire) e sono troppo giovani per andare nei bar/club dove potrebbero incontrare uomini più maturi.

4) Ragazze in vacanza

Le ragazze in vacanza sono le più facili perchè sanno che non ti riincontreranno più. In più non hanno nessuna preoccupazione sulla loro reputazione, e neanche di farsi chiamare il giorno dopo. In più, questi sono considerati periodi in cui è 'corretto' approcciare e avere ONS (tipo Spring Break, Vegas) quindi le ragazze abbassano notevolmente la guardia.

5) Ragazze appena lasciate

Queste ragazze sono appena uscite da una relazione e vogliono fare le pazze per una notte. Questo è un altro raro periodo in cui è 'corretto' avere ONS, e per questo breve tempo non avranno difese AntiZoccola. Se sei uno che sta per farsi una ragazza di questo tipo, considerati molto fortunato.

[Desmos [Partecipante] 222]

Eddai, la LMR che mi frega è la numero 3, e proprio quella non ha soluzione! Che palle...e poi è la stessa di Leonard, e non voglio certo finire 12 mesi ad elemosinarla...(su quest'ultimo termine non mi riferisco a te Leo).

Se una ragazza, diciamo in una LTR, ha paura che dopo il sesso la lasciate, e soprattutto è piena di difese anti zoccola del tipo "Stiamo insieme da poco..", qual è la soluzione? Si accettano teorie xD

[shak [Élite] 157]

Oggi forse rischierò un lmr numero 5. Ero già partito in quinta con l'intenzione di discuterne. Agirò diversamente.

Comunque bel post. Grazie per la traduzione

[Ashhh [Partecipante] 1]

LMR #6: Ha il ragazzo

Io sono arrivato a questo punto.. Il problema è che lei sa che io non sono fidanzato.

Stiamo 2 orette circa al giorno al telefono.. Esce molto spesso con me e con i miei amici/amiche

Mi ha detto che finchè sta con il suo ragazzo non faremo sesso!

Il suo ragazzo sta fuori non sono nella stessa città.

Già ci siamo baciati ( tante volte) ed ci siamo toccati ( io sotto i vestiti lei sopra )

Cosa posso fare?

[Ashhh [Partecipante] 1]

Nessuno che può rispondere?

[Ashhh [Partecipante] 1]

Nessuno ancora?